Proustian Moments in Chicago Hot Dog Stands

Over winter break one day we stopped at Little Louie’s in Northbrook. I told my husband we should eat lunch there because our nine-year-old daughter could have something she likes and we could have something healthier.

We ordered a hot dog and fries for our daughter and chicken and avocado wraps for ourselves. After we  finished the wraps, we stepped back up to the counter. “Two hot dogs, everything, fries.” Happens every time.

In Marcel Proust’s Swann’s Way the narrator is overcome with memories of childhood when he bites into the fancy French equivalent of a Salerno butter cookie. Same thing happens when I bite into a Chicago hot dog.

One taste of a Vienna frank surrounded by a puffy poppy seed bun and I see myself sitting on a padded stool, a wax paper-lined mustard-yellow plastic basket on the counter in front of me. I’m dipping fries into a pool of ketchup as I stare out the window facing Kimball Avenue. It’s about 12:30 on a Saturday. I’m twelve years old and I’ve just finished two hours of dance classes at Miss Carol’s Dance Arts Studio around the corner on Bryn Mawr.

For years I ate lunch on Saturdays at Whirly’s Red Hots. Usually my best friend, Helene, was at my side. We were a couple giggle-prone preteens who talked daily for hours, yet at Whirly’s we often chewed in silence. Eating hot dogs and fries, washing them down with orange pop (soda to the rest of the country), was so pleasureable, even in a nondescript place like Whirly’s, that the few thoughts we had vanished from our minds.

There was, of course, a man called Whirly behind the counter. A wiry man of medium height and dark hair in my memory, he may have been young or he may have been older. He was friendly, but once we placed our orders I don’t recall much conversation with him. I remember hearing top 40 hits like Pacific Gas & Electric’s “Are You Ready?” so there was a juke box or a radio and also a pinball machine in the rear. I never played but it seemed to me the same guy, someone’s older brother, usually was on it.

Legendary North Side Hot Dog Stands

Whirly’s isn’t one of the famed hot dog stands mentioned in Bob Schwartz’s entertaining book about Chicago’s love affair with the hot dog, Never Put Ketchup on a Hot Dog. Whirly’s just happened to be the hot dog stand closest to my house and around the corner from dance school. I ate more hot dogs and fries at Whirly’s than anywhere else.

wolfysSometimes we went to Lerner’s Hot Dogs, just a few blocks east,  because the owner’s son was in our class. And for a special treat my mother would drive us to either Fluky’s or Wolfy’s.

At the time I knew Fluky’s was famous–it was larger, brighter, and busier than Whirly’s–but I didn’t know Fluky’s was the granddaddy of all Chicago stands. Fluky’s dated back to 1929 on Maxwell Street, and like the West Side Jewish congregations I’ve written about, it migrated to the North Side in the sixties. I also didn’t know that Wolfy’s and Fluky’s were related by marriage. Fluky’s brother-in-law was a co-founder of Wolfy’s.

When it comes to hot dog stands, convenience is everything. Homey storefronts with funny names dot every neighborhood in the city and suburbs. But I learned in Bob Schwartz’s book that Albany Park, the neighborhood to the south of where I grew up, is famous for producing more stars in Chicago hot dog history than any other area. Hot dog stands not just in Chicago and the suburbs but around the country trace their lineage back to fifties and sixties-era Albany Park hot dog stands.

There was Maury’s Red Hots on Lawrence Avenue. After 30 years in business for himself, Maury closed his place and went to work for Weiner Takes All in Buffalo Grove. Danny Polovin worked at Maury’s and went on to establish his own hot dog stands in Boulder and Denver, Mustard’s Last Stand (unrelated to the Evanston business of the same name).

Marshall Rosenthal, who provided photos of hot dog stands for this post, attended Roosevelt High School in Albany Park and remembers he always could find a pal at Maury’s. Marshall liked The Bagel in its early days as an counter joint at Kedzie and Lawrence.

Back to the old days, Lerner’s on Kedzie, the place owned by my classmate’s father, inspired Mel Lohn to open Mel’s Hot Dogs in Tampa. Then there was Mutt and Jeff’s, which moved into the space occupied by Lerner’s and later gave birth to Stash’s in Highland Park and has family ties to Hot Dog Island on the North Shore.  In his book Bob Schwartz also mentions Michael Swibesh, an Albany Parker and Von Steuben grad who owns Michael’s Hot Dogs in Evergreen, Colorado.

Bob Schwartz writes about these places like he’s writing family history. And he is. Some hot dog stands, not all, managed to escape the fate of other mom and pop businesses — the neighborhood hardwares, clothing stores and bike shops that disappeared decades ago.

Sitting at a wobbly table near the front window of Little Louie’s on a Saturday afternoon, my daughter can have the same hot dog experience I had forty odd years ago, though it doesn’t cost fifty cents anymore.

That’s okay; it’s worth it every time.

Do you have a favorite hot dog stand or a favorite hot dog stand memory?

Photo credits: My thanks to Marshall Rosenthal for use of his photographs of Chicago area hot dog stands. I took the shot of my daughter with the plain hot dog at Glenview’s Fred Hots and Fries.

Sources: Never Put Ketchup on a Hot Dog, LTHForum.com, the Chicago culinary chat site, and Vienna Beef.

Update!  I know it’s hard to understand how I could write a post about Chicago hot dog stands and not mention Superdawg. When I first wrote this post, I didn’t know Superdawg co-founders Maurie and Flaurie Berman attended Von Steuben High School in Albany Park. This discovery lends further support to my theory that more hot dog stands have ties to Albany Park than to any other Chicago community.   Here’s one of many articles written about the owners of Superdawg.

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50 Responses to Proustian Moments in Chicago Hot Dog Stands

  1. Rick January 28, 2017 at 1:33 pm #

    Oh… I know just when you comment you forget things. But not to forget “Nathan’s” hot dogs another NY favorite and they do taste good!
    Used to sell them here cooked, hot at local KMART now closed, for $1.75. Would buy them plain take to the house and make Chicago hot dogs.
    Closest to Chicago hot dog you can get here.
    Yes you can get Nathan’s brand at local grocery just not the same as buying cooked, hot.
    So back to making them at house.

  2. Rick January 28, 2017 at 1:04 pm #

    Ah! darn spell check… seafood place was not Trojan … was “Trojas.” Was Great seafood place.
    I live in Texas closest city Dallas they do have Vienna hot dogs but two hours away.
    Belive it or not town I live in because of Air Force Base. Most do not like hot dog with a snap. Saying hot dogs shouldn’t snap lol.
    Lot of New Yorker’s here and they mention their favorite dog Sabritt never hearing of Vienna hot dogs. Same as I never heard of Sabritts til then.
    Home is where the hot dog is lol.

  3. Rick January 28, 2017 at 11:11 am #

    We all have memories as kids or young adults living growing up in Chicago.
    I lived and grew up there in 60’s to 70’s.
    One of the hot dog stands I remember because they were so good!
    Was somewhere between Harrison and Polk streets on Western Ave.
    Typical small front of building with added front wood and sheet metal painted white with yellow red blue lettering. And white yellow lighting on top cover over stand.
    Back then hot dogs were 25 cents lol with real home made cut fries. Keep in mind back then wages were about $1.00 an hour.
    I never remembered the name of the hot dog stand only how great they tasted.
    The name had something to do with one of the street names.
    My dad and uncles used to go there every Friday or Saturday nights. We would sit in living room watching an old movie on local channel.
    One movie I remember was
    “The Magnificent Seven” back then on channel 5.
    Long before so called reality shows when families ate together. But hot dogs like burgers, pizza were a treat. We ate in the living room watching TV together. Soda out of bottles with paper straws lol.
    There so many great food back then. Some pretty much closed down now.
    Al’s Beefs still open and good on Taylor street and Aberdeen. They had great Chicago hot dogs.
    Chickies on 27 south Pulaski closed now a taco place.
    Del Campo’s Pizza on south 26th street close to Pulaski gone! Oh there’s one with same name but not same restaurant.
    Home Run Inn on south 31st street I think still there. They had great pizza.
    Trojan Fish and seafood also on south 26th street about 4 5 blocks west of Pulaski. I think is gone?
    Adams Ribs or Logan Square Ribs I think is gone?
    The Dill Pickle Deli in downtown I think is gone.
    There was even a hot dog place on north State street near or on Randolph street gone.
    And what about Maxwell street on Halstead lol who doesn’t remember that?
    We called it jew town because you could haggle price jew them down. Nothing to do with Jewish anything.
    They had several hot dog and burgers stands you could smell the onions, sausage cooking blocks away made you hungry.
    Halstead street between Roosevelt Rd and Maxwell street had so much food including Mexican El Milagro still around.
    There was literally 5 and 10 store that made pizza in store small oven but tasted great! 12 cents a slice lol.
    So many good memories why I like sites as this one. There’s another site on Web with name Craig nothing to do with list. I think Craigs forgotten Chicago also on face book. Good site as this one.
    You’ll see other pics of Chicago we remember.
    Why I’m here still trying to find pictures of that old hot dog stand on Western Ave.
    Let face it developers have torn down so much of the old Chicago we knew, all gone.
    But that’s another story.

  4. Ludwig Ridder December 30, 2016 at 10:33 am #

    We never stopped there. I was referring to the Seafood Market on the North side of Grand Avenue about 2 or so blocks West of the “Outer Drive”.

    I started College at Navy Pier and knew how the lack of parking meant “the earlier you arrived, the easier it was to get a “space”. The C&NW still delivered Freight Cars to Navy Pier at that time and Seagoing Freighters tied up on the South side of the pier. There was a small Concession Stand on the West End which we patronized for food after classes. It seemed that almost ALL of my classes were on the East End (Architecture) just West of the U. of I. lunchroom. It was so much nicer at the “Circle”!

  5. Frances Archer December 30, 2016 at 6:53 am #

    Thanks for visiting. I remember a seafood shack where we got fried shrimp just west of Navy Pier, on the east side of Lake Shore Drive. Same place? It was great.

  6. Ludwig Ridder December 29, 2016 at 10:57 am #

    Hello again Frances,

    I just stopped by to check out any “Kiddieland” updates and noticed the “Treatise” on “Hot Dogs”. I believe you asked for our favorite Hot Dog Haunts, well…, on late Saturday Evenings in the 60’s, we usually made our “Dog-Stop” at Howard and Western’s BILL”S Drive-In. Whether it was their Dogs or Burgers, you had Celery Salt added that made it a Special Treat. I believe “Cock-Robin” was across the street and further East on the South Side of the street was that wonderful Seafood store, “The Fish Keg”! Their Shrimp Varieties were to die for. We tried every flavor that they sold. Now that was “some eating”.

    We went back there some years ago, and of course we knew it would not be the same, but we hoped that they still had the wonderful shrimp, but to our dismay, all they had was “Fried Shrimp”. The best Seafood store was still the one on Grand Avenue just West of Navy Pier. In that store our “Taste Buds” discovered “Smoked Shrimp”, the true food of the gods! I am sure that they have also closed their doors since Lake Michigan Fishing is all but extinct! But… if someone knows if they are still there, I would appreciate the info. A trip back there would be wonderful!!!

  7. Frances Archer November 5, 2016 at 9:10 am #

    Thanks, Norman, for stopping by. Much of the history of hot dog stands traces back to Albany Park.

  8. Norman Berger October 30, 2016 at 11:05 pm #

    A buddy, Al Mendelson (mother Hannah), would ‘eat’ Maury’s red hots with two quick bites. I forgot how many he would down at one sitting. An amazing sight. Maury would berate us for using too much ketchup for his greasy fries. Al went on and married a woman whose dad owned a famous hot dog stand and he worked there, also. I think Al died early of an early heart attack.

  9. len December 16, 2015 at 7:28 pm #

    Not sure, but maybe Rubys?

  10. Frances Archer December 15, 2015 at 8:55 pm #

    Thanks Anita. I can’t recall which one that might have been.

  11. anita hornung December 14, 2015 at 11:53 am #

    Anyone remember the name of a wonderful hot dog stand on Rockwell, just around the corner from Devon.
    Remember the day Fluky’s opened.
    Hot dogs were 5 cents and we went there for lunch and dinner. By the way, so did the whole neighborhood. We played in the parking lot while the mom’s stood in line.
    It was heaven.
    It was part of my life through college.

  12. Frances Archer November 7, 2015 at 9:12 am #

    Tom, thanks for stopping by. Nothing like a dog and fries, is there?

  13. Tom FitzGibbon October 31, 2015 at 12:00 am #

    I am a fan of Larry Gold and his hot dogs as I grew up going to Mr. L’s in the 1970s and later Superdawg and after nights out downtown to Wiener’s Circle. Larry, why did you sell? I hope all is well. Tom

  14. Caroline Magsaysay-McClelland May 2, 2015 at 11:35 pm #

    Hey, North Siders, the hot dog mecca for us Soth Siders was Carl’s Hot Dogs on 83rd and Jeffery. Great dogs, no celery salt and nice greasy fries, all for a quarter.

  15. Frances Archer November 6, 2014 at 2:07 pm #

    Jeff, when I was about 6 – 9 years ( early to mid 60s) or so, my mother would take me to the Moshe Pipic’s on Dempster in Evanston, just east of Chicago Avenue, north side of Dempster. Then we followed up the hot dog with 31 Flavors which was on the corner of Dempster and Chicago. I didn’t know they came from Albany Park, but I’m wondering if my mother knew and that’s what got us to Evanston.

  16. Jeff Singer November 4, 2014 at 5:17 pm #

    Does anyone remember the hot dog joint called “Moshe Pippic’s” on Lawrence Avenue, north side of the street, between Kimball and Christiana Avenue? There for just a few years but good stuff!

  17. Frances Archer October 23, 2013 at 2:33 pm #

    Al, you are making me hungry for hot dogs. I think some places still use the trays, though they don’t balance it on their arms anymore.

  18. Al Gordon October 18, 2013 at 10:54 pm #

    Hi, does anyone else remember the special “tray” the guys running the hot dog stands used. The tray was a board divided by curved handles, with enough space between each set of two handles for a partially opened hot dog bun. If there was a order for multiple hot dogs, the operator would brace this tray between a hand and its upper arm, and, with the other hand, proceed to fill the buns. In would go the hot dogs, then the mustards, then the pickilili, etc, usually finishig with a long pickle slice. Then, one at a time, the dogs would be removed and wrapped in a sheet of waxed paper with the fries. Yum, Yum.

    When you first bit into the hot dog, if it was prepared correctly and handled gently, the warm hot dog juice would EXPLODE into your mouth, if not run down your chin. Slurp, Slurp.

  19. mrcubby August 2, 2013 at 1:49 am #

    Hi, My name is Frank and I grew up in Albany Park at Sawyer & Sunnyside. Went to Roosevelt Hi and was a Jr. Funny Fellow at Max Strauss Center. I remember a Hot Dog stand just south of Lawrence on Kedzie named Fat Boys. Most Saturdays we went there before going to the Terminal to catch a movie.

  20. Larry Gold March 26, 2013 at 1:52 pm #

    I am Larry Gold, Peterson class of 1960 and Von class of 1964 and I own Wiener’s Circle in Lincoln Park for 30 years and before Mr.L’s on Peterson and Cicero in Sauganash for 17 years…

  21. Andy Romanoff February 13, 2012 at 12:49 pm #

    OK, one more, Reds a hot dog stand opened just after WW2 on Foster just East of Kedzie. It was a little trailer on the south side of Foster with Red Strauss behind the little window dishing out hot dogs I remember to this day. I was four or five, my brother Larry a year younger and our parents would put us in the car in our pajamas on a Friday night and drive down to Reds for a treat. By the sixties the trailer had grown into a real store frequented by the bus drivers who worked across the street and then sometime in the seventies I think it was gone.

  22. Frances Archer October 17, 2011 at 10:10 pm #

    Hi, Marty. thanks for stopping by. You must have been working about about a twenty hour week as a kid. One of things I’ve learned (or actually recalled) is how many jobs used to be available for kids right in the neighborhood. Mutt and Jeff’s took over the first Lerner’s location on Kedzie, right? I’ve been to all the hot dog stands you mentioned, they were all great, and of course I love Superdawg. So much as been written about them that I didn’t have anything new to add, but I should include them in a post. I think I’ll compile a list of all the places I missed and create a new post.

  23. Marty Heller October 17, 2011 at 8:23 pm #

    I grew up on the corner of Troy & Lawrence, one block east of Kedzie Ave, over Issac’s, the corner grocery store! I was the delivery boy at Issac’s for a number of years & worked six days a week, both after school & all day Saturday! I still tell people in the Northshore, where I live, that I was known as “Heller Of Troy”! Ha, ha, hee, hee! Anyway, I must point out two other hot dog “joints” missing from this foray into the past….”Mitch’s” on Lawrence Ave. just west of Kimball & just South of Deborah Boys Club and “Pauls Umbrella” on the corners of Touhy & California. However, for my money, Superdawg, who’s original owners, Maurie & Flaurie Berman are still working there in their mid eighties and are very sweet and kind, have the best hot dog and fries that have ever been served anywhere! I’ve been going there semi-regularly for over fifty years now so that makes me somewhat of an expert! Also, let’s not forget Stash’s in Highland Park [formerly Mutt & Jeffs] in Albany Park which is now owned by Bob & Debbie Dubin, also from the old days! Bob started selling hot dogs in Uptown when he was a kid, is a terrific guy, and continues the tradition with great offerings!

  24. Mark Swerdlik September 4, 2011 at 11:14 am #

    Frances-No, the Hot Dog Ranch was different. Mike’s and Eddie’s was on Peterson. Prior to their Peterson location, they might have been next to the trampolines where the Hot Dog Plantation first opened up. A few other random thoughts that your entry stimulated-I used to work at 31 Flavors (around 1964-67). It was owned by George and Madeline immigrants from France. I might have waited on you! Of course, I remember Crane’s drug store. Many kids go through a period of stealing-I did stealing change from my older brother’s dresser. With my “loot”, I would go down to Cranes on my bike and buy aCharleston Chew and a Green River from their dime pop machine. I did this for about a week straight during the summer and Old man Crane called my parents to tell them I was frequenting his store often to buy candy and pop and were they giving me the money to spend at his store. That’s how I was caught-probably a good thing otherwise I might have continued with a life of crime. Can you imagine the owner of a Walgreen’s doing that today? I also remember quite well the empty lot on the corner of Peterson and St. Louis. Some kids in the neighborhood used to pick on me and one afternoon tied me to the back of a bill board in that empty lot (the front of the billboard was facing Peterson). My mom had to let me loose. Really not a bad memory-built resilience. Thanks again for eliciting all of these fond memories.

  25. Frances Archer September 3, 2011 at 3:36 pm #

    Mark, There also was a Hot Dog Ranch on Devon near Kiddieland — or is that the same place. I only new MIke’s, not that it once was Mike and Eddie’s. Also along Peterson Avenue: the empty lot on the north side of Peterson at St. Louis where we caught lightning bugs. And riding our bikes down the parking lot ramp on the southwest corner of Peterson and St. Louis. 31 flavors, Crane’s, Jay’s dry cleaners, and the Chinese hand laundry. Miss Carol’s ballet studio was on Peterson before she moved to Bryn Mawr. Thanks for stoping by.

  26. Mark Swerdlik September 3, 2011 at 12:44 pm #

    For us Peterson Parkers-many of us likely remember Mike and Eddie’s Hot Dogs on Peterson which then morphed into Mike’s. Close to Hollywood Kiddyland (which has it own separate blog link) was the Hot Dog Plantation. I remember walking the four or so blocks from my North Drake Avenue home and eating a hot dog on their park like picnic tables on a warm Sunday afternoon for less than 50 cents. I’m not sure I have ever tasted anything better than those hot dogs or fries.

  27. laura niccoli June 19, 2011 at 2:17 pm #

    No one has mentioned Man-Jo-Vin’s. I always wondered about it’s history.

  28. Michael Povlo June 18, 2011 at 3:41 am #

    when my family moved to Skokie.. I was introduced to “Big Herms” on Dempster.. it became my new favorite Hot Dog stand.. Herm was quite a character.. everything was great.. my friends worked there.. by now it must be long gone..

  29. Steve White May 20, 2011 at 4:23 pm #

    “Who vants hamboorgehr?” ~ Grandma Rose at Lerner’s

  30. Michael Povlo May 11, 2011 at 6:22 pm #

    thanks Francis.. Last year I found the “Taste of Chicago” website.. and had 2 Lou Malnatis pizzas sent out to me.. not cheap but very tasty..

  31. Frances Archer May 11, 2011 at 9:53 am #

    thanks, Michael. You should check into those chicago care packages … Lou Malnati’s pizza, Eli’s cheesecake, vienna hot dogs, etc.

  32. Michael Povlo May 10, 2011 at 11:51 pm #

    Memories of hot dogs.. now thats something I can bite into.. I grew up on Lerners Hot Dogs and other stands too but when I moved to Miami.. I realized that I had to have an occasional “fix” so going back to Chicago meant plenty of “the good stuff” at Flukys.. moved to Atlanta and we had a knock off of Poochies.. but something was missing.. now I live in Las Vegas and we do have several good hot dog places which also sell Supreme Tamales and import their italian roast beef and buns from Chicago.. well at my age at least its a little slice of heaven in a Mary Ann Bakery poppy seed bun.. great article..

  33. Frances Archer May 3, 2011 at 12:56 pm #

    The Ranch was on Devon, right?

  34. Bob April 29, 2011 at 12:27 am #

    I definitely remember The Ranch. Small place, checkerboard tableclothes, greasy fries? Good dogs. A genuine memory of childhood, mid-to-late ’60s.

  35. frances728 January 24, 2010 at 8:24 am #

    Thanks for your comment. Funny you should mention the Ranch. I didn’t remember it, but a friend just mentioned it last week.

  36. Steve January 23, 2010 at 11:36 pm #

    Your post regarding a recent Northbrook hot dog experience brought me back to my days on Devon Ave during the 50s and 60s. More places than I recall. There were about 5 hot dog joints within a 2 block radius of Devon and California Aves. The neighborhood favorite was Red Hot Ranch prior to Fluky’s opening on Western. Thanks for the memories.

  37. frances728 January 22, 2010 at 5:20 pm #

    Your “hold the hot dog” story sounds like Jack Nicholson’s famous lines in Five Easy Pieces. I think you’re right about Weiner’s Circle, but I’ll have to check my book later. We’ll have to meet for a dog next time you’re in town.

  38. Danny January 22, 2010 at 5:07 pm #

    Oh my God, I am now DYING for a Chicago hot dog and I am stuck in Los Angeles! The only place that comes close here is a stand run by former Chicagoan Joe Mantegna and his wife in the Valley called Taste of Chicago.

    I had completely forgotten about Whirly’s until I read this. My very first job was at Wolfy’s. I got paid $2.10 an hour, had to clock out during breaks, and had to pay FULL price for all food. But I loved those dogs. I remember the time an Indian woman came in and ordered a hot dog with everything but hold the hot dog. They made me charge her full price for her poppyseed bun soaked in condiments.

    You didn’t mention The Wiener Circle on Clark, another place I used to love. Wasn’t that started by two guys from Von Steuben?

  39. frances728 January 20, 2010 at 8:30 am #

    That’s right about Cotter. I never went to the west side Kiddieland as a child. We had our own mini Kiddieland on McCormick, just south of Devon, where the shuttered Cineplex Odeon theatre is located.

  40. jennifer January 20, 2010 at 7:09 am #

    Didn’t the Clybourn location become Costco? Seventy year old Kiddieland Amusement Park was torn down last fall to make way for Costco. I have to admit I prefer the Costco as unlike a lot of the west suburban natives, I found Kiddieland to be akin to the creepy amusement park in the famous Scoobie Doo cartoon….

  41. frances728 January 19, 2010 at 10:04 pm #

    Jennifer, that’s an interesting story about your father’s business. I couldn’t have imagined petting a cow in the city as a child. Isn’t it odd what we remember of what our parents did. We must have missed each other at Cotter. I left in 1986 but continued freelancing for several years for the video department, which had moved south, maybe near Halsted and North if I remember correctly.

  42. jennifer January 19, 2010 at 8:54 pm #

    Frances, I know exactly where you worked! Before Cotter moved to the ‘burbs, I freelanced at their Clybourn site for a few months!

    The Chicago branch of my father’s company was located on Root Street in the Stockyards – but it was a worldwide concern with locations in far-flung places like New Zealand, Australia, Germany, England, etc. Basically wherever there were sheep (the main ingredient), sausage makers and sausage eaters, they had an office. They also used the sheep gut for surgical sutures and tennis racket strings. This is probably more information than you bargained for, so I’ll stop here. Although my father sold the business when I was very young, I have vivid memories of passing through the not-so-nice smells while walking along the pens of livestock – occaisionally petting a cow (or bull) on the way to my father’s building. It was not a business for the faint hearted. My father would not have gone into this line of work if life circumstances had not forced him to do so. The sausage casing industry that thrived for many hundreds of years, really no longer exists because natural casings have mostly been replaced by synthetic ones.

  43. frances728 January 19, 2010 at 7:16 am #

    Ilene, we had a few hot dogs together at the place on Diversey and Lincoln when you worked in that neighborhood. (when it comes to hot dog stands, convenience is …)What was it called?

  44. Ilene Ciccone January 19, 2010 at 6:57 am #

    My mother ate lunch every day at Vienna in the 60’s and 70’s and she didn’t even eat hot dogs! Like Frances, it was close to where she worked..You all talk about the Vienna cafeteria as if it were gone..It is still there, and I swear to G-d the same people are still working there!!!! It, however, is not as good as it used to be…No “real” rye bread for the cornbeef or salami and the hot dog buns are not always fresh…

  45. frances728 January 18, 2010 at 9:19 pm #

    Jennifer, I can just picture Ziggy’s sign. I ate at the Vienna Beef factory more times than I’ll admit. I worked at Cotter & Company which on Clybourn, on the opposite side of the river, so it was the closest and the only place to go for a quick lunch. This was back when the Clybourn Corridor was still very industrial. Was your father’s family’s sausage casing company in Chicago? Where, I want to know!

  46. jennifer January 18, 2010 at 8:28 pm #

    You’ve written about one of my favorite Chicago pastimes — eating a hot dog at a window-side table while watching the scene on the street outside! My favorite hot dog stands? Too many to mention! Here are a few: Ziggys on Clark Street behind the apartment building where my family lived. It’s long gone, but their fries were terrific! Weiner’s Circle, of course, and the late and probably forgotten Frankville on the Corner of Clark/Arlington and Lincoln Park West. (The hot dog stand and the intersection were replaced by a large urban renewal project — a grassy/cement plaza that really served no useful purpose — except to block the folks who lived south of Armitage from heading north on Lincoln Park West). My parents enjoyed eating at the Vienna Sausage company cafeteria on Elston just north of Fullerton.

    When we lived in Rhode Island in the early nineties, I went through hotdog withdrawal — they had what they called “gaggers” – which pretty much lived up to their name (slimey dogs bobbing in luke warm water were then slapped on a slice of white bread folded like a bun, and smeared with a disgusting brown sauce. Don’t ask. Only slightly better were the icky New York System Wieners…

    My father’s family was in the sausage casing business for over 100 years, and I have learned that there are some things you are better off not thinking about when enjoying your tube steak!

    Great article, Frances!

  47. frances728 January 18, 2010 at 11:22 am #

    I completely forgot about the hot dog bubble gum. So funny about stopping at Flukey’s on the way home from dinner.

  48. Susan Miller Tweedy January 18, 2010 at 11:08 am #

    Delicious post Frances! I always said that if I ever went totally vegetarian, the only thing I would really miss would be Chicago hot dogs! When we were kids, my dad would sometimes take us for a hot dog at Flukey’s or Wolfy’s on the WAY HOME FROM DINNER!!! Remember when they would give you a little bag of unwrapped hot dog bubblegum at Flukey’s? Now, whenever my brother Danny visits, the very first thing we usually do is drive directly to Superdawg for a hotdog. The best! Yum.
    My husband and his band recently got to climb up to the roof of the place and take pictures with Mr. and Mrs. Superdawg. Lucks!

  49. Ilene Ciccone January 18, 2010 at 9:30 am #

    I am, as we know, a “little” older than you are. We lunched on Saturday at a place called Louie’s on California just north of Touhy. Hot dog and french fries cost $.25. I now lunch on Saturday at a place called Murphy’s on Belmont just east of Racine…A “bit” more expensive, but just as good. A treat to myself for having gone to the gym at least 3 times that week….(How’s that for justification for eating something totaly unhealty!)

  50. Marshall Rosenthal January 18, 2010 at 9:23 am #

    Excellent! I know what I’m having for lunch today!

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